lunarpsychole | nyoro~n

I would ask for first impressions, but I doubt we've threaded enough. I want to thread with you again. '-'

Anyway, what does Saix think of being a knight?

Saïx is not hugely attached to the "meaning" of being a Knight with the whole thing about assisting the heroes and being there to support them, but he does appreciate people working and being productive. So being able to provide incentive for that, to make others work for their achievements, is something he finds pretty satisfying overall. Ultimately his goal is not to aid the Heroes or fight off the Darkness or rebuild Aather--it's to regain his and Lea's memories, and if he has to do all the other stuff to achieve that goal, then that's fine. He's okay with doing that, and he'll do it without complaint*, but he doesn't have a specific attachment to it.

*relatively. Saïx complains a lot just by habit, but it's rare that he actually means any of it. Also, characters who greatly dislike complacency is now a ping of mine...

What's the most unexpected thing that's happened with playing Itachi in Aather?

Gosh I don't know, I've been surprised by a lot. Probably either him getting preemptively jesus'd by his team and Lloyd Irving before he remembered being kind of a ruthless liar/manipulator or his relationship with Sasuke not ending up with Sasuke wanting to murder him. Though those two things are kind of related, really. :T

Are there any memories you're especially looking forward to getting back?

At this point, it depends on how Saïx develops in Aather itself, outside of his memories. He could go any direction right now, and I have some slight leanings, but I can't predict what's going to happen exactly. That said, a lot of his Significant Neutral memories could give him a strong sense of identity and I'm kind of fascinated to see how that plays out. Also when I unlock the memory of him killing Axel, it's going to be a shitstorm.

Do you have any app plans?

Nope. I'm not against it but I would need a character to ping me really hard to inspire me to app, and no other characters have done that for me. I'm pretty comfortable just focusing on Itachi right now, anyway. |D

If Saix (or Isa, if you prefer) were a persona what kind of games would he run?

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Impressions?

Generally he regards Josh as a stable, reliable person--likely if he had any business with Tiger's Eye, the first person he'd go to would be Josh (and that's not just because he's the only person on TE Isa knows, it's also because he thinks he could probably trust Josh with whatever pertinent information he had). Isa is in general kind of a standoffish person, so he's not really keen on showing any kind of gratitude, but he thinks Josh is a good person to have around.

Reverse?

Can I ask for first impressions?

Pretty positive overall? She's a little too optimistic for him to really "get" her, but he recognizes that she's smart and capable in her own way, and she helped him quite a bit. Mostly Isa is just really bad at being grateful and bad at expressing it. Also people who are friendly to him for no reason perplex him a lot. '-' But in general, Isa thinks she's pretty cool in that aloof tsuntsun way of his.

Any future apping plans?

I have an app in the queue! Hopefully it'll sit comfy there for a while; I'm not in any major rush, and I'm having fun with my two as it is. I have some other vague plans, but they'd have to wait until I dropped Ginshu or Hermana, and I don't want to do that.

Has anything surprised you about playing amnesia!Saïx so far?

THE AMOUNT OF TSUNDERE THAT'S RADIATING OFF THIS GUY, I DON'T EVEN. I'm really happy with my decision to start Saïx out thinking he's Isa, because having Isa's memory to base his reactions on really brought out all the subtle things he exhibits in canon(s) that is just so deeply repressed otherwise. I think he has a stronger dynamic to play with now, more things to explore in his character, and while I had a lot of fun playing Saïx for a year and some months in Camp, he was sort of pigeonholed in his development. So I'm looking forward to doing things with him with more flexibility in how he interacts in Aather's environment.

Back at you, for amnesia!Ginshu? I AM UNCREATIVE TODAY '-'

Eeeeverything-- I'd never played at an amnesia game before or even really thought about it beyond chickening out of an app for Sabra when it first opened, so everything was new to me. I struggled for a while because Ayame got all her sig-pos memories and most of her triv-poses back in the very beginning, and that kind of crash downwards into all the sig-neg made playing her very difficult. I think the most surprising for me was that I wasn't expecting her to get so attached to her initial teammates, to the point where she has a hard time connecting with new people now because she's afraid to open herself up to that kind of loss. But they held her through that initial crash of horrific memories and got much closer than I would have thought despite the fact that even with amnesia Ayame is Ayame.

Does Saïx have thoughts on the knight teams?

nya

go nya yourself

First impression/relationship/SoTU?

THOSE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TO ASK IN ONE so I will do first impressions.

Right away Isa made a mental differentiation between Roxas and Ventus based on personality. Roxas seems a little fiercer, a little more determined, and not as bright and happy as Ven is, so that makes it easier for Isa to think of them distinctly. He feels really perplexed that he doesn't have any memories of Roxas yet, especially since they have the Nobody connection... and even more perplexed that Roxas seems to trust him way more than Isa thinks he should. All in all, Isa is very (unsure) about Roxas but not in a particularly negative way.

First impressions reverse!

Roxas thinks Isa is a serious, decent guy, who has a lot of his own team's notable traits. Thanks to Emerald, Roxas is going to react instinctively well to stoicism and open communication, which are both traits Isa has exhibited. So his first impression of Isa is a good one. That, and it's not like one of his favorite people in the world didn't cause an apocalypse (hi, Knife!) So Roxas's attitudes toward trust in this case are: a) you are who you are now, b) as long as you're capable of remorse/change if you learn you were someone the current you doesn't like, and c) if I mistrust everyone on sight, I'll go insane. Additionally, he's Axel's friend, and while Roxas knows his friendship with Axel wasn't all peaches and cream back home, he also values it, which means he's automatically going to regard Axel's other friends positively. He tends to take a 'friends of my friends are my (potential) friends' attitude, until and unless proven otherwise.

How are Saix and Axel doing right now?

TENTATIVE... well, from day one, they were already deceiving and hiding things from each other, only they both believed it was to protect the other. Isa found out from Ventus that he doesn't have a heart, and made Ven promise not to tell Lea; likewise, Lea found the same thing out from Riku and asked Riku not to spill it, either. So they both knew there was something wrong with them, and after the Lion's game they were feeling shakier with feelings than usual, but it wasn't until after Kiriko's game (when Isa got the memory of what Nobodies are and Lea got the memory of killing Zexion) that things started to come out. Right now I think they're closer as a result, but there's a lot of shared pain between them and they're not really sure how to cope with that.

Roxas's top 5 most important people in Aather!

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1. Ven
2. Emeralds, all of them!
3. Josh
4. Rabbit
5. Fellow Nobodies, just on virtue of OMG, you're like me

Five people who made the biggest impression on Saix so far?

1. Lea
2. Ventus
3. Zack
4. Roxas
5. The Lion...................

This list is hilarious.

I AM RUNNING OUT OF QUESTIONS DUE TO BEING DEAD FROM HOMEWORK but you can keep asking if you like!! '-'

I'm amused to be on the same list as the Lion.

You played Saix at CFUD at some point, right? What was that like?

A TRIP AND A HALF. I am going to talk a lot now because I started reminescing and it is hard to stop. :x

I played Saïx for a year and three months, just about. The KH cast at the time was fairly humongous and I had a blast with Saïx raining on their parade while they tried to jesus him and constantly failed. Zazzle plays Axel there as well, and they had really long, heart-breakingly tragic threads p. much all the time. Alison plays Roxas there and their threads of constant bickering and mindgames was a blast, too. My biggest problem with playing Saïx at the time was that he was sort of pigeon-holed in his development; he was post-death in an environment where he felt trapped, so he was about twice as bitter and angry as he is in canon, and a little more trigger-happy, too. While often he'd be totally cathartic to play (seriously, playing someone who is constantly a jealous, cruel asshole can be massively tiring but such an eye-opening experience in RP) I would wonder if I'd shoved him into a corner in how much of his character there was to explore. He wasn't going to make friends, he wasn't going to learn how to have feelings, but fortunately there were so many unresolved things in his life, especially with Axel, that I continually found ways to force him to deal with it.

I think I was really fortunate that the year I played Saïx was the year Birth by Sleep came out; I apped him in November of '09 (not long after 358/2 Days came out), and the announcements that Lea and Isa would be in BbS were released the following January. Needless to say, most of the KH cast in CFUD flipped out. We spent the next months frantically guessing at what the backstory to the series was, what each characters' role was, how we were going to alter our playing field, and sometimes just making stuff up on the fly to compensate for our lack of info. Fortunately, no one got too badly jossed, I think. In the meantime, I played Saïx in a lot of different situations to see what kind of things I could get him into--he made... er, "friends", and by that I mean he found mutual interests with a couple psychopaths and they were horrible together. Saïx and the keyblade crew had a tentative truce in Camp because constant in-fighting was going to go nowhere, which led to hilarious threads like Riku and Saïx unwillingly teaming up to take down the Lingering Sentiment, which I link because it's a good example of the kind of tentative canon environment we were all playing from, and also showcases how bad I am at fight threads. |Db

And then BbS came out, and Zazzle and I deaged our boys into Lea and Isa. And that was one of the most memorable experiences I've ever had in RP, because it was like a breakthrough in what I could do with Saïx, how far I could take him, and the potential he had. I ended up breaking down into sobs when we finished, and that doesn't happen very often with me. (My long-standing character at CFUD, Raphael from Angel Sanctuary, has only made me tear up a couple times and I've been playing him since 2007) I GUESS I WAS REALLY MOVED ;; As a result of that incident, Saïx ended up making an actual friendship of sorts with someone--Sera from Digital Devil Saga, who is played by Lloyd. He was still caustic and bitter and mean at her, but they had genuine conversations on an even playing field where they talked philosophy and she actually listened to him and he felt oddly not-hateful of her presence.

When I dropped him, it wasn't because I fell out of love with the character--I knew that taking someone as broken as Saïx and forcing him to move forward was only going to go so far, and that I'd hit my limit in what he was willing to do. Frankly, I'm still amazed that I played him for that long. It was hard, and it was painful, but I had to let him go from CFUD eventually. Still, I felt I owed it to him to have one last good thread, so here is my absolute favorite drop ever. It's not fun, or funny; it's actually a very painful thread--but it was the proper goodbye for everything that happened to this character.

Also, if you ever see AJ referencing eating Saïx, it's because she played the Corinthian from Sandman and he and Saïx had a special relationship in which Cori cut out and devoured Saïx's eyes multiple times. And then complained that they weren't filling. JERK!!!!!

Do you play in any other RPs/plan to?

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That sounds amazing!

I don't currently play in any other RPs. I'd considered Sabra - right around the time they originally closed apps - and now it's in its endgame stretch. Once I'd apped to Aather, I was honestly surprised how both engaging and overwhelming this game is. It eats your time but good! I'm also currently job searching, so I'm not sure what my future time is going to be like.

The last time I was heavily involved in online RPs was back in... '06? A looot of time from '03 to '06. But now I have this, and it's pretty awesome.

Any other app plans for Aather?

I have an app in the queue right now that I'm waiting on, and in theeeeeory a plan or two later on. However, I am very attached to Isa and this new character and I can't handle more than two in Aather (and four in CFUD, currently). So for right now this is it!

I AM RUNNING OUT OF QUESTIONS '-'

DO YOU LOVE ME

I mean, hi, relationship?

MY DERE IS GETTING OUT ALL OVER THE PLACE, WHAT IS GOING ON.

Okay so hilariously Isa does not know what to think of Ven. He is like. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THIS KID, HE IS TOO MUCH FOR ME TO HANDLE. Isa sort of becomes automatically suspicious of people who are friendly/trusting when he can't see a reason for them to be, and Ven is like the embodiment of this. He's actually really grateful that people like Ven and Lea and Roxas and Zack are willing to do something he considers pretty reckless--it makes it easier for him to start figuring out his own feelings. But it also confuses him, because he can't see how anyone who lives in a tumultuous world like Aather would be able to trust others so easily. The Wild Isa hurt itself in its confusion!!

However, he'll admit that having the experience in Ven's heart with the crystals really endeared Ven to him (if "endeared" is the right word to use here, due to how cold Isa can be). So there's a part of him that genuinely likes Ven as much as he's capable of, and another part of him that just can't figure out what to do when faced with so much kindness.

REVERSE ME

ACCEPT IT, ACCEPT THE KINDNESS

Ven loev him some Nobodies. Especially Isa, honestly, because while Lea is more fun, Isa is at this point the one he feels more of a personal connection to. Because they've had some pretty serious conversations, and Ven does have a bit of a ping for stoic serious snarky dudes accumulated through various things. Ven vaaaguely knows about the Org from talking about one of Roxas' memories--not even by name, I think, just that Roxas and Axel were involved in something sketchy--and he has some pretty instinctive lack-of-feelings-and-empathy-can-be-dangerous thoughts, but. It's not what you've done or what you are, but what you do now and what you're like as a friend. Ven had a lot of starting dere for both Lea and Isa because people from his world(s) who he actually remembers and was friends with, however briefly, and he's just like. I will love on them and take care of them! Because that's what I do! And he seriously would quest all over Aather and bleed a hell of a lot if it would help get either of them their hearts back. Because that's how he is.

As for the trust thing, well, Ven is a fairly trusting person by default, because he's an optimist and that's how he stays sane, and has seen nothing in Isa to make him distrust him and several things to make him trust him. His attitude towards things done before people came to Aather is entirely "none of my business, unless you hurt somebody I cared about and fail to give a shit on any level." (It didn't used to be, he used to freak out and mistrust people a little if he learned they'd hurt/killed/whatever in the past, but Peridot has changed him a fair bit on that spectrum.) And because of his talks with Isa about friendship, he's pretty confident that as Isa is now, Nobody or no, it would bother him on some level to discover he'd hurt his friends. He really sees Aather as a second chance for some people.

Tell me about these feelings that you're figuring out!

ALL...OF...THEM.... I think that is the honest answer, I really do. Right now his focus tends toward understanding why people are being nice and friendly and kind to him, because he can't comprehend that very much. And he doesn't like being confused, especially by other people, so he's working towards a place where he is not constantly caught off-guard by everything. Twitchy Nobody is twitchy.

So how did Josh and Ven happen, I'm curious about that!

Awww twitchy Nobody.

Hm, is it easier to type this up again or c/p from some previous question meme....meh, I'll type it up again! So Josh and Ven were sort of casual friends for a very long time. They kept running into each other, often when Ven was depressed, and being friendly, but there was this sort of not-quite connection. And then one day Ven was having signeg foo and asked for a hug, and somehow this spiraled into a long soulful trauma-sharing conversation and after that, they were SOLIDLY BROS all of a sudden.

And then they started doing all those Bro Things. Like swimming together mostly naked, and geeking out about magic, and cuddling a lot, and dancing on air together during a party game (with Ven in a frilly ballgown), and nearly falling asleep on each other afterwards, and watching each other perform manly feats of strength and agility, and cuddling while swimming...Bro Things, right? :3 And somewhere in there Ven went, crap, I think I have a crush on him. Because Ven crushes very easily on really close friends, and he wasn't sure how Josh felt and was super nervous about it being unrequited (as most of his attractions are), but he blurted it out at one point when they were talking and snuggling and Josh was trailing fingers over the back of his neck and it was Doing Things.

And then Josh thought about it for a bit, realized that, yes, this was a thing that he'd been too derp to fully realize (because seriously, cuddling while swimming and mostly naked, GET A CLUE, GUYS), and then they made out frantically until Trout found them and stuck her head up Josh's shirt. And the rest, as Josh said once, is adorable history.

While we're talking about such things, which side of the platonic line do you read Lea and Isa as being on?

Right now, I think they're mmmmmostly platonic? I think they're both pretty possessive of each other in their own ways, and it could easily tip into not-platonic, but Isa at least is not concerned with such matters at the moment just because he has so many other things to think about. Probably what's going to happen is Isa will need to be hit with a clue-by-four before getting it once they've settled. x:|b I will say that I don't think Axel and Saïx were platonic, but whatever they once had died out by the time Days rolled around.

Terra shows up in Aather! WHAT DO, VEN, WHAT DO

ATTACK-GLOMP SOME POOR DUDE WHO JUST STUMBLED INTO THE RING.

No, really, Ven would be ALL THE EXCITED AND HAPPY and introduce Terra to all his friends and forgive him everything and nurse him through his "I did WTF" memories as best as he could. And crush on him tons. And honestly kind of root for Terra and Riku being friends, because he thinks Terra would be good for him.

Josh and Terra hanging out would be especially hilarious because they have *very* similar story arcs and falls into darkness.

And ultimately, once Terra got enough memories to figure out what the shit even happened to him (Ven has no clue, even with a complete registry), Ven would be so fucking happy that Terra got to Aather safely, because it means he's still alive and himself. \:D/

Xion gets unbooked again, what do?

LOL THAT WILL DEPEND ON SO MANY THINGS... mostly the order in which he gets his memories of her. Like he's already got one, technically, but he doesn't really know what she looks like or who she is. Just her name. He's got this sense like 'Oh, maybe whoever this person is knows about what sort of things I got up to' so he'd want to know about that. But Saïx treats Xion absolutely terribly in Days, and his reaction to those memories could be anything from 'WOW I WAS AN ASSHOLE' to 'Xion's not a real thing, it's just a construct'. Or a combination of both. '-' And he will be confused and conflicted.

I AM. running out of questions since I am doing homework and creativity is low, so you can keep asking if you want o/

...just how horribly disorienting was your first day in Aather, dude?

I am kind of derp on questions too, but. It seemed like Isa got pushed to the overload point, so I am kind of curious thar.

HEY. HEY. YOU WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR A GREAT DEAL OF THAT

BUT ILUUUUUU...

...yeah Ven still feels a little bad about that. He's firmly of the "give important information sooner rather than later" school, due to his experiences, but still.

I am also here for the impressions discussion.

YOU ARE A... VERY STRANGE MAN... AND A BAD INFLUENCE...

Isa is like 'idek what this dude is on, but I am not about to get on his bad side.' Like he gets the cynicism and the grittiness and the MANLY BROODING part, he totally gets that. He is honestly surprised there are not more people like Snake hanging around being tough and manly and shit. BUT Snake is also... crazy... so Isa is now permanently (unsure) of him. '-'

Does Snake know what his actual name is...

Ha, with good reason because Snake is crazy.

He does know his name...er, he knows he's Snake, Jack and apparently Boss and that he hates it when someone calls him that last. All the names and refusing to tell Para-medic his real name, along with the explanation that soldiers don't have names after going on the battlefield...he really just didn't want to tell people a name! He's starting to come around to telling at least some people to go ahead and call him Snake, and then some people have heard from other people, but it's still not common knowledge.

I don't know KH -- what's Saix like in a nutshell, and how's Isa differing from Saix?

Saïx in canon is the very definition of 'heartless'--he's cruel, cold, bitter, totally unfeeling, a little sadistic but deeply, deeply repressed. He's very driven and determined, but he's also totally ruthless and willing to sacrifice and manipulate anyone if he feels it's necessary. But underneath the icy facade he creates is someone who desperately, desperately wants their heart back, and is surprisingly jealous at times. Isa in contrast, from what we see of him in Birth by Sleep, is so different from Saïx it totally shocked me. They're both cynical and sarcastic and a little closed-off, but Isa actually had the potential to connect with others. He's a lot more laid-back and quietly appreciative of others than he's willing to say, and that makes a huuuuge difference.

And that's ultimately what I wanted from playing Saïx starting out as Isa in Aather; I wanted him to still retain that bitterness, that aloof coldness that's so intrinsic to his personality, but I wanted him to be able to develop into a human being, into someone who feels genuine emotions as much as he's able to. I think the key difference is hope--Saïx doesn't have any, but Isa just might. And I am excited to play that! \o\ /o/

What's the most surprising thing that's happened to your character so far?

First impressions '^'

Not too bad--Isa definitely doesn't think he's incompetent or reckless, which are two things he tends to get cranky at, but Flame seems to have this sense of being resigned? And that rubs Isa the wrong way, but he gets why people are like that. He didn't mind working with him for Kiriko's game, but did feel like they could have done more. Overall, his impression is distinct yet neutral--which is pretty normal for Isa and interacting with others.

What's the most surprising development that's happened to your character so far?

Goshhhh uh. I'd have to say what HASN'T happened with him. I was so not expecting him to be this... ... ....... idk moe. MOENYX. When I started playing Flame, I totally expected him to end up less well-adjusted than his canon self because he would be missing all his reasons for being socially maladjusted/doing dubious things in the name of revenge. And for a while this was somewhat true -- he was really frustrated that people would get upset with him for not quite knowing how to feelings like normal people despite the fact that he couldn't help it and didn't understand why. But then he ended up taking his duty as knight super seriously! And being less tsundere than in canon! And he's managed to go this long without getting some of his most "oh SHIT" memories back that at this point, when he does get them, they probably won't throw him for as much of a loop as I was expecting. Even his heartgame making him less likely to feel guilty for shanking people hasn't affected the fact that he's actually pretty emotionally healthy in Aather. It's amazing.

What skill are you most looking forward to Saix getting back?

moenyx socute '^'

Hmmm, there's actually two I'm looking forward to the most, for different reasons. One is Just Desserts, because I am too amused by the idea of Saïx getting back his canon weapon only for it to be a giant banana. I AM TWELVE The other is Lunar Affinity, because with it I basically unlock the occasional tweaking out that will be a good precursor for whenever he unlocks Berserker. And it'll be fun to give him something to mindlessly obsess over and give him dreams and add to his sense of longing. (And also to pretend he's a werewolf '-')

I don't actually know anything about Pokémon :( Tell me about your canon! (Well, Silver's canon, I know the older ones)

yessssssss GAG WEAPONS ARE THE BEST

Pokémon Special is a manga series that has been running for... gosh, 14 years now. As long as the anime! It's basically a loose adaption of the games, with differnt arcs focusing on different heroes, but all taking place chronologically and within the same universe. It goes Red/Green/Blue --> Yellow --> Gold/Silver/Crystal --> Ruby/Sapphire --> Fire Red/Leaf Green --> Emerald --> Diamond/Pearl --> Platinum --> Heart Gold/Soul Silver --> Black/White. Not counting B&W about nine years has passed in canon time. It's much darker than the anime. MUCH. Interestingly, the creator of Pokémon has mentioned that of all the Pokémon media and spinoffs in existence, it's the closest to the world he was trying to represent, so go figure. I should mention that though the plots of the individual arcs are based off the various games, there's very little emphasis on gym battles and the Pokémon League. I read some of it when I was super young and recently got back into it :B

Gold/Silver/Crystal, where Silver first shows up, deals with a mysterious figure known as the Masked Man and his efforts to resurrect Team Rocket and basically mess with the fabric of space and time itself through the use of legendary Pokémon. Silver gets involved in this because he and his adoptive sister, Blue, were kidnapped at young ages by the Masked Man as part of a group of promising young trainers he wanted to make into mindless puppets. He accomplished this by forcing them to wear masks at all times and generally psychologically (and occasionally physically) terrorizing them. Silver and Blue eventually escaped after about five or six years of this, however, and now that the Masked Man has shown himself again, Silver is out for revenge. Which he hopes to accomplish by stealing a Pokémon, a Pokédex, and allying himself with a guy who tried to destroy all of humanity in the previous arc. I should mention that he is all of eleven at this time. A LOT OF STUFF HAPPENS AND THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP PREVAILS, BECAUSE THIS IS STILL POKÉMON, LUCKILY.

But yeah. That should give you a taste of how "... oh my god what" the series can get, and that's not even examining the later stuff that happens. In Aather, Silver's from the most recent arc he shows up in -- HGSS -- at which point he's sixteen and has a lot less issues. PROBABLY MORE THAN YOU NEEDED/WANTED TO KNOW.

I will... possibly edit this with a return question when I think of one, but right now I am kind ob braindead.

nyoro~n

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